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SEC executive compensation roundtable highlights divergent views

By Heather Marshall , Steve Seelig and Max Fogle | July 2, 2025

U.S. SEC Chair Paul Atkins fielded questions on how to balance simple disclosure of material information while still providing sufficient insight into how and why executive pay decisions are made.
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In their opening remarks of the recent U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission’s (SEC’s) executive compensation roundtable, Republican majority Chair Paul Atkins and Commissioners Hester Peirce and Mark Uyeda highlighted disconnects between the original intent of disclosure rules and the realities observed today. These comments set the tone for the discussion that followed.

A consistently cited point of tension was how to balance disclosure of material information for investors with the burden placed on public corporations to satisfy detailed requirements. The notion of materiality itself also was a central question, with Commissioner Peirce noting that aspects of current disclosure requirements seem focused on public interest rather than investors.

CEO pay ratio, pay vs. performance and clawback requirements — all stemming from the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act — drew early attention. This is a strong indication that the SEC is considering alternatives to how these statutory Dodd-Frank requirements have been implemented.

Other topics identified at the outset included the (lack of) clarity and length of compensation disclosures as well as the difficulty of identifying and quantifying executive perquisites.

Divergent views highlighted potential challenges ahead

Generally, corporate issuers and advisors tended to favor a scaled back version of the current principles-based approach to the Compensation Discussion and Analysis (CD&A). Meanwhile, investor representatives tended to favor more clarity in standardized disclosures while hoping for a more targeted, rules-based CD&A. These positions are not surprising.

Select issues raised during the roundtable — in no particular order — included:

  • CEO pay ratio: Companies highlighted the challenges of preparing analyses and indicated that it rarely is a topic of focus during engagement with investors. Some investors noted the value of the CEO pay ratio as insight into internal inequity (and potentially workforce engagement), and particularly the ability to track how numbers change over time.
  • Pay vs. performance (PVP): Companies and advisors highlighted the material costs involved in preparing the PVP analyses, adding that the analyses often were confusing and risked being misleading given the term “compensation actually paid.”

    It was noted that questions from investors are not received about PVP and, internally, most companies often use their own approach to analyzing in-cycle and compensation paid analyses to inform decisions rather than “compensation actually paid.” Investors also suggested they focus on their own versions of “actual” pay, but noted how hard it can be to piece together what executives earn from their equity-based pay.

  • Perquisites/all other compensation: Companies highlighted that including perquisites in the Summary Compensation Table (SCT) total compensation calculation can be highly distracting as well as expensive and challenging to prepare.

    One particular concern was that executive security is widely accepted as a cost of doing business even though perquisite rules require their disclosure. It was noted that companies often are punished by proxy advisors for excessive pay when these costs are included in the SCT. Investors noted that disclosure ensures appropriate oversight of policies and practices, and high values/inappropriate elements can be an indicator of poor governance.

  • Number of named executive officers (NEOs): Views varied considerably among panelists, with companies having a bias toward fewer NEOs (as extreme as just the CEO and CFO). Investors suggested that the required inclusion of leaders of large business units would be useful information to add.

Companies and advisors noted that, on rare occasions, pay decisions were influenced by whether increases would bring an executive onto the proxy (given that NEO determination is based on rank order of total compensation).

It is hard to see how the SEC will be able to satisfy all stakeholders. As one panelist noted, there is a risk that scaled-back disclosure requirements could lead to lower say-on-pay outcomes.

Consensus that emerged

Despite differences among stakeholders, there was consensus across several issues:

  • Simplification may yield clarity: There was a common desire among participants to enhance the efficiency, clarity and relevance of executive compensation disclosures to better serve both companies and investors.
  • Clawbacks: Panelists noted that, while it is conceptually logical that if you are paid something you didn’t earn you should have to pay it back, many thought the original statute was overbroad. It was tough to determine whether there were potential changes to the regulations that these critics would support or if they simply would prefer that the entire statute be ignored. Advisors noted that we are still less than three years into Dodd-Frank mandated clawback rules and we have yet to see a large-scale recovery.
  • Engagement: Panelists acknowledged the collective benefit of engagement in providing a forum for feedback and to enhance understanding of programs catalyzed by the introduction of say on pay.
  • More focus on what the committee considers: For investors, current disclosures fail to illuminate what compensation committees focus on (i.e., business context, goal setting, pay mix, approved target pay levels and actual outcomes). Current disclosures often are unhelpful in this regard.
  • eXtensible Business Reporting Language (XBRL): Requiring XBRL reporting in the CD&A itself in a more digestible and standardized format would enable easier pay-data analysis to inform voting decisions. It also could reduce reliance on influential proxy advisors who play a necessary role for investors today.

Technical comments focused on confusion, redundancy

Despite typically being the largest element of an executive’s pay, consensus seemed to emerge that equity often is the hardest to understand. This difficulty stems from how awards are reported across various tables as well as the challenges of tracking an award through its lifecycle, from grant to liquid asset.

The technical panel discussions focused almost exclusively on:

  • Summary compensation table: Concerns that the totals from the SCT receive disproportionate attention despite combining elements of actual and target pay and values ascribed to benefits and perquisites. There was discussion about how this table linked to the PVP table and whether a reassessment of both tables together would yield a better picture of the pay lifecycle.
  • Grants of plan-based awards, outstanding equity and equity vesting tables: Concerns that reconciling information across the three tables can be challenging and they do not necessarily link directly to the PVP table. Understanding the simple question of what an executive actually earned with respect to past equity awards remains surprisingly difficult.

Suggestions focused on exploring opportunities to better group information on target and actual pay as well as streamlining the number of tables.

Changes may happen more quickly for this SEC

Past SEC actions have been deliberate, allowing plenty of time for comments and often assigning distant effective dates. Yet, some speakers suggested that delays between analyses of proposed changes and eventual rule approval meant decisions were rushed. Speakers also noted that the economic analyses underestimated the costs of compliance.

This sentiment suggests that things will move forward more quickly for the SEC. In fact, Chair Atkins asked that comments be sent to the SEC within the next few weeks. This also suggests that the SEC will undertake a deliberate review of the comments and, perhaps, proposed regulations later this year.

This would mean that final regulations would not be issued until 2026, although the SEC has the discretion about when proxies would then comply with the new disclosure regime. This process would be the same for any change in the regulations that implement the CEO pay ratio, PVP and clawbacks. In contrast, executive perquisite disclosure could be an area that the SEC tackles on an accelerated basis given that it sits outside of statutory mandates.

The SEC continues to accept responses, which can be submitted online or in writing as part of the review initiation.

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